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Friday, October 10, 2008

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.

I realize it hasn’t even been two full weeks since the collapse of the 2008 season, but I get kind of nervous when companies are holding on to hundreds of dollars of my hard-earned money and not telling me when they’re going to give it back to me. The storyline that the Mets are handing out is that they have already refunded everybody’s playoff tickets, but what the beat writers don’t get the specifics on, and what the Mets don’t volunteer, is that all that means is that there’s a credit in your Mets ticket account. They aren’t cutting checks, crediting credit cards, or in any way shape or form physically getting cash back to you. It’s still sitting there, earning interest for Sterling Equities, LLC, while Fred and Jeff try to get us to buy $50 bricks.

Fans are starting to get disgruntled. Steve at the Eddie Kranepool Society already unleashed a rant, while the ever-stalwart folks over at Loge 13 continue to hoist the standard for the average fan. Aside from that, it’s business as usual everywhere else. Fans calling and asking the ticket office are being told that they’re figuring things out now and they’ll let us know within two weeks, to which I say:

WHAT IN TARNATION HAVE YOU PEOPLE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS?

It’s not like they didn’t know this was coming. It’s not like there aren’t other teams out there that have had to relocate fans from one stadium to another who they could learn and borrow from.

It’s even more irksome when you realize that uptown in the Bronx, our good friends the Yankees are accommodating everybody. It may be more expensive; you may not like your seat location; but they are accommodating everybody. They even have a helpful website set up (and have had for some time now) to walk ticketholders through the process.

Please make sure you have taken your blood pressure medication before going there, however, because if you are a current partial season ticket holder with the Mets, you will blow your top.

The Yankees are offering as follows:

  • A 41 game plan
  • A 20 game plan
  • A 15 game plan
  • And an 12 and 11 game plan

Don’t those sound appealing? Especially when SEVERAL OF THEM INCLUDE FULL POST SEASON RIGHTS! No seriously.

In the helpful FAQ, the Yankees elaborate as follows:

1. Which Licensees are eligible for the Relocation Program?
All Licensees who licensed and maintained a Plan for the 2008 Season will be eligible to participate in the Relocation Program for the new Yankee Stadium.

6. I am a Partial Season Plan Licensee for the 2008 Season. What will my options be in the new Yankee Stadium?
At the present time, all current 2008 Partial Season Plans will be modified for the 2009 Season. However, you will be eligible to participate in the Relocation Program. You will initially be assigned to a Plan in a location that is based upon your preferences as indicated in the Relocation Program Questionnaire that you submitted. Please see pages 40-41 for more information.

7. I am a 20-Game Flex Plan Licensee for the 2008 Season. What will my options be in the new Yankee Stadium?
A 20-Game Flex Plan will not be offered for the 2009 Season. However, you will be eligible to participate in the Relocation Program. We will be offering two separate pre-determined 20-Game Plans for the 2009 Season. You will initially be assigned to a Plan in a location that is based upon your preferences as indicated in the Relocation Program Questionnaire that you submitted. Please see pages 40-41 for more information.

Now, I’m not pretending that the Yankees are suddenly the most fan-friendly team in the Major Leagues. If you dig deeper, you will see that the only seats available to partial plan holders are in the nosebleeds, there are zero prime (or even subprime) seats available. And I work with enough long-time Yankees season ticket holders to have heard the trials and tribulations. I know.

My point is: the Yankees don’t have to do this. The Yankees are the ones who can easily say, “My way or the highway,” and only accommodate full-season customers. They certainly don’t have to go the whole hog and offer a Relocation Plan, and devise a complex seniority ranking system whose purpose is to attempt to reassign people fairly given how long they’ve had a plan and what their current investment is.

Now, maybe the Mets are going to announce this kind of thing in two weeks. Maybe the elves over at mets.com are building a little web site with a Relocation Questionnaire and a virtual reality seating chart that we’re all going to get to use.

But between you and me, I kind of doubt it.

I want my money back or I want them to tell me what my options are for next year, and I want them to tell me RIGHT NOW. Period. They have had YEARS to figure this out in advance. There is no excuse for them to keep us hanging for another few weeks, except, of course, that interest $$$ growing in the Wilpons’ bank account.  At some point, there is a limit to greed.

I encourage all partial plan holders to call the Mets and ask what is going on. Be sure to mention that the Yankees are already doing something. Apparently they don’t like hearing that very much.

 

Posted by Caryn at 09:14 AM

Excellent post.  From an objective cold business standpoint, I can understand why the Mets don’t want to reveal their intentions re: partial plans (since that would go against their goal of maximizing their full season ticket base).  However, it is unacceptable for them to both withhold their partial plan intentions AND not refund our postseason invoice payments. 

If the refund letter doesn’t show up in the mail today or tomorrow, I’ll try to call the Mets on Monday to indicate that I want my refund immediately as opposed to when they think it’s best to give me back my money.

Posted by Rickey24  on  10/10  at  06:42 PM

TBF called today. Twice.
They told him they are sending out a letter to let us know that we can get a refund or we can credit it towards next year. That letter should be coming “soon”. When pressed, the CS rep said “Wednesday”. We’re calling back on Tuesday.

I am floored that they need to send a letter to let us know how we can get a refund but I know it’s just a stalling tactic created to keep our money in their hands for as long as possible and it remains reprehensible.

Posted by metsgrrl  from  Brooklyn, NY  on  10/10  at  09:44 PM

I called yesterday (10/13) and got the same story TBF got on Friday. So they have not progressed in 4 days. The letter should be coming “soon”. I didn’t get that it would be Wednesday like you did. I also got the story about no news on the partial plans. So why don’t they just give us the money now then contact us when they figure it out?

Posted by Kevin  on  10/14  at  11:51 AM

I called the ticket office this morning (10/16) and got the same story about them sending out a letter regarding refunds for partial plan holders.  Interestingly, the rep that I spoke to did say that there would be partial plans at Citi Field but that specific details regarding such plans had not yet been finalized.  When I pressed her for an answer with respect to when this letters would be sent out to partial plan holders, she did not give me a definitive answer. 

Instead, she mentioned that the Mets had initially planned on sending the letters out by now but that it now appears that they have decided to wait until the details for Citi Field partial plans have been finalized so that the letter could give partial plan holders the option to have the postseason payments either (a) refunded or (b) applied to a partial plan of some sort at Citi Field.

Finally, she mentioned that if you want to receive your refund immediately and do not want to wait for your refund letter, you should fax the ticket office a request (including your Mets ticket account number and contact info) for your refund and they would refund your credit card or bank account immediately. 

As much as I’d like my money now, it’s not really worth the hassle to get a refund only to then have to pay that money back to the Mets in the near future once they finally get their act together.  In the meantime, they unfortunately get to continue to earn interest on my money.

Posted by Rickey24  on  10/16  at  12:45 PM

Thanks, Rickey - I was thinking we needed to call today but TBF has had a tough week at work so I didn’t want to push it.

I still don’t understand what has taken them so long. It’s not like they didn’t know this was coming. Surely there is some project manager type there who could have prepared for two possible contingencies.

If not, I know of one who would have and is available ;)

Posted by caryn  on  10/16  at  12:56 PM

I actually received my refund last week from the Mets. I never got a letter about the refund. They just credited my account.

Posted by Tanya  from  Bronx  on  10/16  at  06:40 PM

Just received a letter from the Mets regarding partial plans.  Here is a portion of the letter:

“We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to sales to the general public.  Two 40-game and five 15-game Plans will enable us to accomodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field.  We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.

Toward that end, your account credit balance for the value of the tickets and any pre-paid parking you purchased for 2008 postseason games, and the service fees associated with those tickets, will be applied as a credit to your 2009 Ticket Plan account.  With our Ticket Plan sales scheduled for November, we encorage you to simply retain this credit in your account.

If you prefer a refund, please write the word, “Refund” into the space provided below and return this letter to us by Wednesday, October 29.”

Posted by Rickey24  on  10/18  at  04:47 PM

yeah, we got that too. it is more promising than i expected. however, i’ll still maintain that these letters should have been ready to go on September 29th.

Posted by caryn  on  10/18  at  05:11 PM

Got my letter as well.  I wonder if I can get a refund and also be offered a ticket plan?

Posted by Eli  from  10032  on  10/18  at  06:39 PM

I am or should say was a Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday ticket plan holder for the past 11 seasons. I spoke with the ticket office on Friday and was told that we would be recieving some form of ticket plan offer for the 2009 season. I was also told we would be getting a letter with the details towards the end of next week.If we decided to take the offer our post season money would be applied towards those tickets if not our money would be refunded. They would not tell me what kind of plans would be availible to us only that it would NOT be a Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday plan. Guess something is better than nothing. Just wanted to share my info…

Posted by Paula  from  Long Island  on  10/19  at  11:13 PM
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